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#26 2011-10-26 09:22:18

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Re: shaking down SliTaz cooking.iso ? WiFi net manager for laptops ?

Shaking down SliTaz 3.0 ended with exploration of W2k and W95.

The scheme of virtual memory and less bloated graphics make sense of reviving W2k sp4(64 mB) and W95C(8 mB). IE 5.5sp2 can also use only 8 mB of drams. You can add ace browser skin to get new browser features.

Then the discovery of DSSS speed of 5.5 mbps data rate(450kBps download speed). And OFDM faults of stronger signal strength(too many RX packets resend wasted time).

Now SliTaz 3.0 stable can not compete because of the dram overhead tax. New version needs swap file on SD flash card? No, install SliTaz from livecd, on SD card then add swap file to handle lack of dram size by virtual memory. If you do not add swap file, with SD card mounted, will overflow 320 mB of drams.

SliTaz alone with Firefox really need 1 gB of dram to run any length of time per internet session.

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#27 2011-10-30 09:08:24

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Re: shaking down SliTaz cooking.iso ? WiFi net manager for laptops ?

Shaking down SliTaz 3.0 stable is done . Now the conclusion to enable SliTaz to work more perfectly.

SliTaz is i386, most i686 cpu has backward compatibility to work with less of an instruction set. UTC time zone is set in the boot process, can not be changed in desktop application. Console is set by you during boot process. Once you have desktop, you can check out all the apps in the nenu, beware of having insufficient dram memory so that apps became non responsive. Battery may have to be removed to save memory o manage battery usage.

The wifi manager has many drivers. They are not all i386 except orinoco_cs, which works with many wifi cards. Only ath9k works with Dlink DWA-642.

If you run into bugs, add memory first, to see if that will take care of lack of memory bugs.

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#28 2011-10-31 08:02:20

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Re: shaking down SliTaz cooking.iso ? WiFi net manager for laptops ?

Pankso is developing tazweb a tiny web browser of 24 kB long application. It can do Yahoo portals of ansi colors with webkit. It can download files into free memory of drams then perhaps store in some email account(10 mB or less) for install after booting the next session(browser autoupdate of some sort), or stored in a USB flash card mounted in SliTaz operating system.

The webkit is not yet suitable for movies download which needs Mpeg4/h.254 protocol.

Once any webpage is converted to mpeg4/h.264, download will be much faster without any list of links to get from DNS servers. So, Tazweb may yet be rewritten some day?

Midori(0.3.6) uses webkit 1.2.7 and patches and more dependency files than meets the eye. It had improved since 2010 and became usable after 03/29/2011 SliTaz 3.0 stable.

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#29 2011-11-01 06:17:21

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Re: shaking down SliTaz cooking.iso ? WiFi net manager for laptops ?

Recently more people tried to review SliTaz 3.0 stable 03292011 version. But alas, one has to use it to shake it down. Just quoting all the old published data from google does not cut the mustard.

Air crack is used to steal others' wep password. If you use free hotspot, you do not need encryption. And pcmcia orinoco wifi cards all work well in v3.0. This alone made SliTaz worth its salts, Midori can be launched and you can surf quite well. Midori is not the lightest browser. It is well patched on v1.2.7 webkit and many dependency files, so it takes memory to surf internet..

Once you are on the net, other packages for desktop application will be wasting memory galore. Slitaz can be barely installed on 192 mB of rams. But 256 mB is hardly enough for internet surfing, unless you only run short sessions. If you run out of memory on a laptop, remove battery to save memory. You may recover the missing taskbar on the bottom of the screen. Any software not working means you have to add hardware memory capacity.

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#30 2011-11-02 11:16:02

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Re: shaking down SliTaz cooking.iso ? WiFi net manager for laptops ?

SliTaz set the time zone to UTC every time it boots. To get the time zone where you live, you may do the UTC time change, but its - is + and + is -. ie NEW_YORK is UTC-5(from UTC to NY). But you have to do it as +5(from NY to UTC):

# echo "UTC+5" > /etc/TZ

For india standard time(IST):

# echo "UTC-5:30" > /etc/TZ

If you use windows, the UTC time change for your time zone is readily available in data and time properties. This however does not do daylight saving time automatically. You have to adjust it yourself by the number of hours less one(+4 in NY). Even if you have to do it each and every boot, its a small task using livecd. If you never shut laptop down on virtual wifi network connected, its just once to adjust the clock.

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#31 2011-11-16 22:41:38

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Re: shaking down SliTaz cooking.iso ? WiFi net manager for laptops ?

Midori browser is happy with 320 mB of drams. If you don't do too many webpages per session. This made some vintage laptops usable with SliTaz 3.0 stable. And leaving the laptop on for a few days is possible. This tests the stability of wifi network on the SliTaz. the connection can be solid if signal strength does not fluctuate.

This leads to the discovery of OFDM signal jamming and in general connection maybe in dager of being cut off by errors of data transfer.

I have been lucky to collect a number of 802.11b wifi(DSSS) cards. Some older cards do have moisture problems that needed to drive off the moisture. Otherwise DSSS mode is tested to see the overall data transfer rates. Most are supported by orinoco_cs drivers in SliTaz, but not in windows. In windows most cards have their own drivers, not necessarily even working.

So, Slitaz is unique to restore speeds of older laptops in data transfer rate not needing cpu speed to make it fast(PII 266 mhz with USB 1.1 or pcmcia bus).

SliTaz can also take out the fancy video card in desktops and still work well with vga(vesa 791 drivers). SliTaz uses the Linux componentized drivers(minimum instruction set) to reduce resource demands down to a minimum.

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#32 2011-11-19 07:33:09

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Re: shaking down SliTaz cooking.iso ? WiFi net manager for laptops ?

SliTaz 3.0 stable(kernel 2.6.30) once booted, goto start and system tools find wifi manager.

click on wifi will lead you to input root  as the password. Then wifi manager drivers. Load orinoco_cs. Look at the files by lsmod. Then goto configuration to start a connection. Then to network to see if wifi is connected to any hotspot? If connected, launch Midori browser to download webpages.

This is the process of internet surfing.

Footnote:
You need a laptop and a SliTaz 3.0 livecd, You also need an pcmcia orinoco wifi card, and a free hotspot.

Footnote 2:
http://linux-wless.passys.nl/index.php

This shows brand names and chipsets used.

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#33 2011-11-22 09:35:54

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Re: shaking down SliTaz cooking.iso ? WiFi net manager for laptops ?

Had acquired a spectrum24 wifi pc-card made by symbol called orinoco trilogy. But slitaz wifi drivers spectrum_cs did not turn it on(no led lights). Only orinoco_cs drivers worked.

This card has the hermesI and prism 2/2.5/3 chipsets thus called trilogy. It is as fast as any orinoco wifi cards.

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#34 2011-11-24 09:25:31

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Re: shaking down SliTaz cooking.iso ? WiFi net manager for laptops ?

Some older cards had G+(not /n) with MIMO antenna inputs(3). The more antenna inputs the more signal strength, so the range can be extended. such a wifi pc-card is belkin F5D9010 which has a Ralink chipset RT2600 or RT61 drivers.

Ralink also designs their chipset to run hot, and some reviewers had it not working the second day. Ralink wifi will work well if annealed at low temperature on the first day, by idling for a few days without intensive surfing activity..

Once, Ralink stabilized, it should work for a long time. It also maybe important to get the drivers from Ralink site.

Belkin F5D9010 v3000 should be considered as a enhancement for older laptops with weak wifi hotspots around.

We have to try the Ralink drivers supplied by SliTaz kernel 2.6.30.x when we have some time.

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#35 2011-12-05 17:04:00

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Re: shaking down SliTaz cooking.iso ? WiFi net manager for laptops ?

One final remark about orinoco_cs drivers for kernel 2.6.30 of SliTaz is that most pc-cards will work if they are orinoco design.

This is not true with agere 7.82 drivers. Most orinoco pc-cards are not installed by 7.82 drivers because of windows 9x, 2k and xp operating systems. pc-cards made by lucent had a better chance.

So, we like to use SliTaz for wifi orinoco_cs drivers.

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#36 2012-01-29 11:28:35

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Re: shaking down SliTaz cooking.iso ? WiFi net manager for laptops ?

Proxim model 8420-WD does not work with SliTaz orinoco_cs drivers. And it does not work with 7.62 drivers for windows. It does work with Agere v7.82 drivers(51b) installed by inserting in the pcmcia slot and browsed to the drivers location already in the operating system. Once the drivers are installed, go to control panel click on wireless network, and find scan to get hotspot you want, which will connect hotspot to your browser. Then you can launch your browser and use this Proxim 802.11/b wifi pc-card in windows.

For Linux, 8420-WD should avoid orinoco_cs; but try wavelan2_cs, or roamabout_cs, or wlags49_cs because of the hermesII chipset.

For other orinoco prism2 chipset made by Intersil, try prism2_cs.

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#37 2012-02-29 10:41:00

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Re: shaking down SliTaz cooking.iso ? WiFi net manager for laptops ?

SliTaz 4.0 RC1 is available.

Added nine languages and more keyboardmaps.

Will download and try it to see if it breaks something like missing a file for installation to USB key or hdd; to use swap file to reduce dram requirement(48 mB) and use more space for language file systems in storage.

34 mB iso downloaded at 573 kBps for one minute for livecd.

Will be looking at the install to USB key or hdd, to see if Slitaz 4.0 neglected the /sda/... for application bindings(symlinks)? Missing file could be just missing binding?

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#38 2012-06-08 09:20:10

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Re: shaking down SliTaz cooking.iso ? WiFi net manager for laptops ?

So far only slitaz 3.0 stable can be used with startx on most laptops.

The operating system is limited by the browser to run apps and games with openGL 3D accelerator.

It is recommended that you use W2k or XP for apps and games using firefox and adobe flash player v11 with openGL.

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#39 2013-10-20 09:07:26

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Re: shaking down SliTaz cooking.iso ? WiFi net manager for laptops ?

Its been a few years since i shake down slitaz.

I have been using WinXP and W2k on cable modem.

The livedvd solution for hddless computers to do bigdata webpage is still good to buy ebay laptops.

A new look at Slitaz, did not change much to run v3.0 stable with dlink DWA642 wifi pc-card.

Even though Knoppix is losing public interest and Puppy retired from Ubuntu base, slitaz run on dlink wifi as it is is a useful operating system.

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