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#1 2011-08-09 10:37:21

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Browser Linux based on Lucid ? Down to 90 mB not prex0.4 or boot WiFi

Reading the review by Jassica Cam Wong, it seemed to have missing any mention of net connection.

Puppy Linux has a problem with hotspot connection(unsecured) trying to connect to encrypted connection in your house.

Browser Linux should load browser first and connect to Wifi immediately. Otherwise it is just a tinier Linux with a simpler desktop. Instant on is the key to browser operating system. Instant on means you can not load the operating system into the 16 mB execution area in drams. The browser just wake up from hibernation in non volatile sram in nand. This concept means hibernation can not be Gnome controlled. It has to be embedded in ARM cpu operating system which has no bios.

It may take quite a while to shake off Linux desktop to create a real browser operating system.

Some day, some one will write an instant on tablet operating system like Prex0.4(4kB), which dialup cellphone account and have a text browser to find website immediately.

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#2 2011-08-12 09:13:22

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Re: Browser Linux based on Lucid ? Down to 90 mB not prex0.4 or boot WiFi

On other posts, I have approved Sylvania netbook with the plastic backed lcd  panel which is slightly larger then the other lcd with steel back. ARM cpu with WinCE works without bugs although function names needed study. WiFi is the network with RT2870 chipset.

Quality of tablets are very much in question this year, But computer circuit using the present schematic works OK. Its time to re-examine Linux kernels and apps. Abandon IBMPC architecture? And use embedded software without bios for USB bus as the primary connectivity. This simplicity of architecture made cost effective and cloud computation centered around Adobe flash player to standardize webpage creation.

Will Puppy do a quick change around? Buy a Sylvania netbook and put in strip down Android 2.3 to replace WinCE?

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#3 2011-08-12 09:29:07

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Re: Browser Linux based on Lucid ? Down to 90 mB not prex0.4 or boot WiFi

Once we start to use ARM based tablets and netbooks for children, we will never look back. The killer application here is calender scheduler to teach children responsibility. Must be easy to use with icons to be click off(shaded with time and date stamp) for completion of duties. Icons are universal language to replace words?

The future is assured we need to shift our workload to be cost effective. Some day 800,000 icons may need a keyboard to select each icon from dictionary. Or type in words and get icon placed in the calender.

Footnote:
WinCE office has enterprise planmaker(autoupdated), which is too sophisticated spreadsheet for children. It also has GUI not usable because of window work space insufficient in netbook.

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#4 2011-08-15 11:01:19

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Re: Browser Linux based on Lucid ? Down to 90 mB not prex0.4 or boot WiFi

Is it fun to use different package managers for other distros then abandon them for Puppy packages? Woof is just fun to do match and switch. But in the end, it achieves nothing useful. Each distro has nothing different in apps(no killer app). Neither does Woof for that matter, just GUI and developers' preference of how apps should be human engineered. Changing wall paper used to be a big feature of Linux for its users.

Desktop(JoliOS) is dead, even as gears for webpages of reduced pixels.

Internet webpages(SAAS) had long ago replaced apps on desktops. More data is securely stored on virtual servers. Email sent to Yahoo mail is still kept faithfully.

I am afraid the hobby Barry started now consumes him learning other distros also not popular.

We are moving on to smartphones, tablets and tiny netbooks of ARM cpu. Look at the Apple success and its apps.

Some people on Wall street thinks with ARM cpu, Apple may achieve $trillion sales, all mobile devices. PC not selling is more than a rumor.

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#5 2011-08-19 00:38:50

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Re: Browser Linux based on Lucid ? Down to 90 mB not prex0.4 or boot WiFi

What are we saying? Cellphones with lcd is a computer?

Dialer like Prex0.4 is an operating system? With a text browser makes a smart phone?

Technology has changed from X86 IBMPC? ARM cpu is an 32 data bit efficient(branch prediction in 8 stages) teletype machine? Running reduced pixels data need computation of FPU. Hardware has changed from computation to just data transfer from data banks of tables and xml data?

Will Puppy be just an IBMPC operating system? Then it should be tailored to run livecd on hdd less laptops with WiFi for internet?

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#6 2011-08-23 09:27:15

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Re: Browser Linux based on Lucid ? Down to 90 mB not prex0.4 or boot WiFi

With the release of 528 Puppy, We have to take a look at the internet capability. Downloaded at the library in 14 minutes on wireless.

First, Dillo is not as good as html viewer in 501. Some webpages are not complete after downloaded.

Default browser did not launch Dillo, after dialup modem was connected. No idea that USB modem has connected, except you failed to find modem trying to connect again? puppy 501 has transmission display on tray.

So, there are more bug fix to be done. WiFi Wisecom driver was found by autoprobe. Autoprobe should be on immediately after installed in pcmcia slot?

Once we realize that computers are started by automation to do our chores, The script to start the computer just installs all the drivers and get on the net with browser. Browser linux indeed just select the fastest speed devices to load first.

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#7 2011-08-24 20:34:47

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Re: Browser Linux based on Lucid ? Down to 90 mB not prex0.4 or boot WiFi

Poppy Lucid 501 version may be better for stripped down laptops with only drams, pcmcia WiFi and card reader.

We are still testing it against the latest 528 version.

If you need a copy of 501, let me know? Reply here ?

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#8 2011-09-17 09:11:13

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Re: Browser Linux based on Lucid ? Down to 90 mB not prex0.4 or boot WiFi

The reason that dialup modem is still important is because it is another data channel to the internet. If you use free WiFi, your second laptop can use dialup. Then your third laptop can use 3/4G cellphone subscription. Then you still have cableTV ethernet and other services.

Anytime, any of these data channels cam choke up in data traffic. That's why, we are now working on internet data traffic control in browsers(bit torrent and reduced pixel data transfer). Ondemand server to bypass DNS servers lacking bandwidth.

Its been fun so far. There are more technology yet to be deployed, in parallel data transmission borrowed from download manager(10 servers simultaneous download). It is just a matter of scheduling the technology in traffic control.

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#9 2011-09-22 08:49:17

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Re: Browser Linux based on Lucid ? Down to 90 mB not prex0.4 or boot WiFi

Reason that Puppy Linux tries to do browser Linux is the trend of tablets and smartphones booting into internet.

There is advantage such as keeping email updated. Latest happenings is always on speed dial windows.

Looking at the kernel based WiFi drivers and firmware(vintage 2004), the auto detect and driver install can only be on the latest wifi cards. Some of the older wifi cards are working in SliTaz 2.6.30 because of manual install of drivers and firmware(sometomes drivers are stacked when files are lsmod).

This really puts Linux browser operating system behind times.

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