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#26 2012-01-30 12:04:30

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Re: Puppy development and its faults? drag and drop OS ? Prex OS 0.4? hdmi

Underdog Puppy maybe a disguised grub workaround to run all distros(sdx) and packages in Puppy?

Or if you have grub or lilo, do you need Puppy underdog?

It will be more interesting to datamine the apps in iPhone(Linux from windows Safari on winecfg) or Androids(Chrome) from their browsers?

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#27 2012-02-01 09:12:26

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Re: Puppy development and its faults? drag and drop OS ? Prex OS 0.4? hdmi

Internationalized GUI must be tied to file system database for each language translated in the GUI. This is the approach used in Austrumi, and its successful. Each language is a different operating system, so to speak.

Puppy allowing languages will have to switch file systems to store data of each language separated clearly. This will make it very much bloated if you use five or more languages. Because translation of languages are now very prolific(63 since June, 2011). So, extx file systems had to have sub titles of languages to be switched.

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#28 2012-02-03 11:24:26

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Re: Puppy development and its faults? drag and drop OS ? Prex OS 0.4? hdmi

Puppy has a few developers that do bug fixes and a few developers that writes apps. the apps did not follow the technology improvements in windows or other distros. drag and drop dvdrw files for one. This technology is so important for livedvd users.

The WiFi drivers and installation was never studied and usable. The dialup modem drivers are totally a waste of time. These apps were included to encourage Puppy developers to do more bug fixing.

So, when Barry blows his own horn on DoOcracy, eventually people pointed out that bugs were not fixed. Puppy can be used only if you have the same laptop that Barry owned. Barry had been trying to use other distros by binary files, so that he does not have to fix bugs of Puppy. But alas, Puppy apps had its own bugs not fixed for ages.

Many people reported they have been using Puppy for a long time.. If you are lucky and in Puppy's sweet spot. You are very lucky. I have some computers and laptops that can use Puppy too, but not all the apps that came with it. Eventually, Barry will have to strip out some of the apps developed that never worked fully as intended.

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#29 2012-02-06 10:47:50

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Barry took on the impossible task of language translation. The problem is that language translation has to have constant fixes by programers to keep language translated correctly. Improvements still come every day. How many google employees correct translations each day is not known; but search engine correction programmers were 270 people all along.

So obviously, each translation for the operating system has to be saved; but a few days later, you may have to save another copy of the same operating system with better translation changes. The language translation done by translator has to be date coded to improve by re-translating the texts possibly day by day or month by month.

Capture a glimpse of a moving target can make the incorrectness usable? Navigator for GPS traffic direction is still work in progress. So will voice commands by speech for computer applications. Its a question of how much tolerance applied. The tolerance of language translation is not only the translator but the choice of English language itself whether its suitable for translation to other languages? An example is the use of spanglish for english and spanish languages. or pigeon english. or using translation and english in quotes.

The 10 languages done on Austrumi is an example of how the architecture was done.

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#30 2012-02-13 15:02:22

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When I use ACE explorer for the browser skin on windows browsers, the translation to english is very convenient. For browser operating system, you only need translation to your natural language for a few webpages.

But your browser operating system would also need your natural language for GUI.

Browsers use more icons(Java beans) that do not need translation. You need keyboardmap, and some translation for icon identification. Or delete text all together.

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#31 2012-02-16 22:13:41

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Browsers are changing .

B3g is  new operating system, maybe realtime in micro econd time slices. Gecko will continue installed on top of the realtime operating system.

packet switching will be the communication system using posix packets in Unix operating system.

Its going to be around second half of 2012.

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#32 2012-02-27 10:00:40

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Puppy wifi connect has to be good for free hotspot.

When you goto a restaurant or coffee shop, you boot into a choice of hotspots on iPad(radio scan). You click the choice and is connected to the free hotspot in that location unsecured or no encryption needed.

This is the most important point in wifi hotspot usage, free and choice of connections.

Nobody wants no choices when you have several hotspots some with WEP or WPA. At home you might have to set your own WEP or WPA the first time you connect.

Nowadays you have to have iPad to learn how they train users of tablets or computers, how to use 3/4G or free wifi?

Puppy designed everything different, so people don't know how to use it.

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#33 2012-02-27 11:01:44

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Lucid puppy going unofficial? What about Ubuntu autoupdate? I am using Hardy version and its updated automayically.

If Ubuntu puppy has Ubuntu repository, it updates from repository. Update which happens after your operating system is connected to the internet. automatic download happens on the new list of software in the repository. Then new files will be installed for you on choice.

Lucid puppy has puppy repository, but not updated until version change?

All future puppy strip down has to worry about such autoupdate that crashes Puppy use of binary files from other operating systems. On the other hand it extends puppy version life if it can use any repository updates after dependency check. Firefox autoupdate is a good example.

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#34 2012-06-13 17:55:08

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Desktop depends on functionality of the application, seldom even killer class. Then each application takes up a lot of space on your storage device. A terabyte hdd is often not enough to have as a library of info or applications.

So, IBMPC is a goner. Apple people realized that on the internet, info is never restricted to data storage limit. Big data is now the key to small smartphone displaying big data in the cloud.

It is so obvious that legacy or habit of Intel and Microsoft missed the meaning of big data, small client display device hand carried. And it looks like a quick understanding and technology change is not coming.

Watch puppy struggle with ARM cpu platform, and never realize the infinite number of websites available is never going to be like only a few desktop productivity  solutions. Webpage display does not need much memory either. Smartphones can have too many icons for websites to click on.

What a shame, if the legacy giants all go out of business, trying to revive IBMPC.

The new business is writing applications that can be delivered by webpages.

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#35 2012-07-18 09:49:13

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Puppy development is mostly install script. but not fundamental in programming. I stopped using Puppy long time ago.

ie, xinit? You install video drivers and codecs in the execution area. When you shut down, you delete(kill) the drivers and codecs in the execution memory area or write back to the data storage device. So you can reboot into the memory space.

In Microsoft windows, you return the drivers and codecs back to the hdd, so you can use them again without corruption on the next boot.

If Puppy has install script that is different than the shut down script. Then Puppy has to make sure the shut down script did the shut down of its own install script.

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#36 2012-07-19 11:16:18

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So, the way to be able to reboot, is to make sure all the data in the execution area of the memory is all deleted(killed) or cleared.  When you reboot, there will be no corruption of any new data installed.

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#37 2012-07-20 20:37:03

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Re: Puppy development and its faults? drag and drop OS ? Prex OS 0.4? hdmi

Passive heatsink for ARM A9 multicore means it will overheat and have limited hours of intensive operation. The new ways of cooling is to use stacked power supply and operate on voltages of 0.17 stacked to 0.85 volts. Never overheat.

The reason is obvious, Webpage apps and games(big data) are very lengthy to download at highest speed(multi path download manager).

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#38 2012-07-29 14:05:59

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Once Adobe and facebook is downloaded, they can run smartphone apps and games.

They bypassed kernels, desktop apps, and even browser.

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#39 2012-08-05 09:06:26

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The software in computers are really defining the paperless society and its demand of display data which has to be stored in data centers. And the display codec is mpeg4/h.264, no longer xvesa, in hdmi. If you need printing of an important document, you use internet service either data storage on another location, or request a document to be sent to you by mail or email.

This of course is the way ARM cpu is designed, data transfer in 4 bit ascii codes, instead of 8 bit ascii codes. the cpu can use very few transistors to save electricity and runs cool. More people can get on internet and no denial of service.

So, smartphones became the choice of paperless computing. Apps are doing data sorting in big data centers. When ARM cpu is regressed to run x86 chores of peripherals, you need systemd packets created to activate kernel functions or peripherals on USB bus. These packets(systemd) are very much like drivers of the past except now we use socket service(packets of scripts)

Once you realized the changing hardware design due to functionality, you will find ARM cpu versions differing in ascii codes. Then embedded functions in each generation of ARM cpu are added much like cisc cpu. i586 added write back of data in X86 hdd. i686 added 32 bit branch prediction. If you use i386, then the common denominator is 8 bit instead of 16/32 bit data processing. ARM cpu has to be classified in embedded functions. The mystery then is defined. Some ARM cpu still use the original 5 bit ascii codes.

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#40 2012-09-18 08:42:01

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The ultimate conclusion of the Puppy project is its futile efforts to keep developing buggy operating systems.

There is no way to lock the library of any Linux kernel versions. Any script written can not be bug free because of slight changes by a few hackers of operating system and application stack. At best, you might find a few sweetspots that worked for your computer.

Changing puppy to browser operating system will simplify bugs galore to webpages(bug free individually). Limit Puppy to pet software of tcl/tk will make it bugs free.

These ultimate solution of browser being bugs free is now complicated by DNS servers of ipv4 and ipv6. Micorosft is using solution of personal settings to deliver webpages from DNS servers in each personal settings in their operating systems.

Smartphones are not buggy, because of the ISP control of the operating system. Locked down for 100,000 or more applications, and support of digital TV display format with opengL.

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#41 2012-10-08 13:06:42

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Often, Linux distro founders mistake technology trends in their non-professional outlook. When Linus can not see the ARM cpu functions in a clear developmental trend, he wants to leave ARM out.

The technology trend is paperless society, using smartphones and big data centers to downloads from ondemand servers. One whole webpage downloaded without links.

So, Android phones(or tablets) with browser operating system can be used without desktop apps. But plenty of apps and games from webpages. Apple still using Samsung ARM cpu? And samsung still use Samsung ARM cpus.

Intel and HP have declining sales(no way to grow their business), and not likely to do paperless big data without their own data centers.

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#42 2012-10-09 09:18:46

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Ascii codes is the data comprssion scheme of Teletype data transmission. ARM cpu is doing data compression on ascii codes. It is basically good for data transmission(speed). So, it can do paperless display of documents on LCD screens.

The computer architecture of smartphones is to connect to an ISP(mobile carrier). Then use browser to download internet webpages, or email to do telephony. Smartphones can use USB key for memory, and USB devices for peripherals(pay bills in India). This creates a paperless society, if big data centers are technology upto date in ondemand servers.

The need for X86 cpus, and printers for desktop apps are wasting resources. HP and Intel are looking at hopelessness of their product lines.

Puppy Linux missed the boat on browser operating system for mobile carrier connection. Then rely on webpage for apps and games(openGL acce0lerator for video processing of mpeg4/h.264). Finding apps to pay bills by mobile carrier is the killer application of smartphones. ARM cpu disappearing, not likely. But its development boards(to develop x86 periperals) will.

Its not really late in the game to do ARM smartphones(beyond Android). tcl/tk apps for minimum phones tp pay bills(by using minutes of paid phone credit)? Otherwise Puppy Linux is just another distro going down the tube.

Anyone interested to do super duper old phones for text messages(ascii codes for icons to do software switching)?

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