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#1 2009-08-13 03:00:57

miye
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xvkbd - virtual keyboard and xbindkeys

Hi,

How do I install these apps on Austrumi, how do I install any apps on it. Is their an IRC channel for help.

thanks,

 

2009-08-13 03:00:57

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#2 2009-08-13 08:27:28

atang1
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Registered: 2006-03-30
Posts: 2705

Re: xvkbd - virtual keyboard and xbindkeys

No IRC here. Here is a suggestion to install new packages on Austrumi livecd.

On Livecd, boot, use browser for download tarball, then tar package, cd package, ./configure, make, make install. Goto 'remaster' to burn the installed package on new Austrumi livecd.

Then you can install new livecd on hdd or USB key?

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#3 2009-08-13 10:32:44

miye
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Re: xvkbd - virtual keyboard and xbindkeys

Ok I'll give that a shot, I got the .pet  tgz working for Xvkbd but it needed some otheir files too, it needed the same files that where missing from puppy I'll post them later when I remember. but I'm not having all that much luck with Xbindkeys tho.

How do I get a GCC compiler  tool for Austrumi, I read puppy have made something available. How come you don't have any modules like slax has, all like petget... If you had a tool for compiling or to point me to one would be good.

 

#4 2009-08-13 12:03:33

miye
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Re: xvkbd - virtual keyboard and xbindkeys

atang1 wrote:

No IRC here. Here is a suggestion to install new packages on Austrumi livecd.

On Livecd, boot, use browser for download tarball, then tar package, cd package, ./configure, make, make install. Goto 'remaster' to burn the installed package on new Austrumi livecd.

Then you can install new livecd on hdd or USB key?

I nned some more help here Im new and posted in the wrong forum, I though this said the newbie forum. I dont know how to tar we maybe tat but I dont know how to cd package /configure, make, make install is this all done in remaster can it all be done in remaster..? do I have to get a compiler to do this

thanks.

 

#5 2009-08-13 17:42:23

atang1
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Re: xvkbd - virtual keyboard and xbindkeys

In Linux, after you boot, you can open a terminal and experiment with Linux commands(google linux commands?). And you will find some of the commands such as tar, etc. as I listed in that order to install the package(name).

Austrumi has compiler in its library; and make will call for it to work its magic.

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#6 2009-08-13 19:12:30

miye
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Re: xvkbd - virtual keyboard and xbindkeys

atang1 wrote:

In Linux, after you boot, you can open a terminal and experiment with Linux commands(google linux commands?). And you will find some of the commands such as tar, etc. as I listed in that order to install the package(name).

Austrumi has compiler in its library; and make will call for it to work its magic.

I tried make and it says no Gcc to compile..I try some more then write back.
:

Can you write the command here for me please.. which terminal do you use aterm? do all the terminals accept the same command.

thanks.

 

#7 2009-08-13 19:28:27

miye
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Re: xvkbd - virtual keyboard and xbindkeys

Also if the files I download is packed and is a tar.gz file does this not mean it is already a tar, or what command would you use to turn this into a tar.

 

#8 2009-08-13 21:12:38

miye
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Re: xvkbd - virtual keyboard and xbindkeys

-sh: cd: package: No such file or directory
root@localhost:~# cd xbindkeys-1.8.2
root@localhost:~/xbindkeys-1.8.2# ls
AUTHORS      README        depcomp     missing         xbindkeys_show
BUGS         TODO          get_key.c   mkinstalldirs   xbindkeys_show.1
COPYING      aclocal.m4    get_key.h   options.c       xbindkeysrc
ChangeLog    config.guess  grab_key.c  options.h       xbindkeysrc-combo.scm
INSTALL      config.h.in   grab_key.h  xbindkeys.1     xbindkeysrc.scm
Makefile.am  config.sub    install-sh  xbindkeys.c
Makefile.in  configure     keys.c      xbindkeys.h
NEWS         configure.ac  keys.h      xbindkeys.spec
root@localhost:~/xbindkeys-1.8.2# ./configure
checking for a BSD-compatible install... ./install-sh -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for gawk... gawk
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... no
checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no
checking for gcc... no
checking for cc... no
checking for cl.exe... no
configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
See `config.log' for more details.
root@localhost:~/xbindkeys-1.8.2#
root@localhost:~/xbindkeys-1.8.2#

 

#9 2009-08-13 21:19:00

miye
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Re: xvkbd - virtual keyboard and xbindkeys

This file contains any messages produced by compilers while
running configure, to aid debugging if configure makes a mistake.

It was created by xbindkeys configure 1.8.2, which was
generated by GNU Autoconf 2.61.  Invocation command line was

  $ ./configure

## --------- ##
## Platform. ##
## --------- ##

hostname = localhost.localdomain.net
uname -m = i686
uname -r = 2.6.28-austrumi
uname -s = Linux
uname -v = #3 SMP PREEMPT Sat Jan 17 01:00:03 EET 2009

/usr/bin/uname -p = unknown
/bin/uname -X     = unknown

/bin/arch              = unknown
/usr/bin/arch -k       = unknown
/usr/convex/getsysinfo = unknown
/usr/bin/hostinfo      = unknown
/bin/machine           = unknown
/usr/bin/oslevel       = unknown
/bin/universe          = unknown

PATH: /usr/sbin
PATH: /sbin
PATH: /usr/bin
PATH: /bin
PATH: /usr/games


## ----------- ##
## Core tests. ##
## ----------- ##

configure:1814: checking for a BSD-compatible install
configure:1870: result: ./install-sh -c
configure:1881: checking whether build environment is sane
configure:1924: result: yes
configure:1989: checking for gawk
configure:2005: found /usr/bin/gawk
configure:2016: result: gawk
configure:2027: checking whether make sets $(MAKE)
configure:2052: result: no
configure:2223: checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles
configure:2232: result: no
configure:2300: checking for gcc
configure:2330: result: no
configure:2397: checking for cc
configure:2444: result: no
configure:2500: checking for cl.exe
configure:2530: result: no
configure:2559: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
See `config.log' for more details.

## ---------------- ##
## Cache variables. ##
## ---------------- ##

ac_cv_env_CC_set=
ac_cv_env_CC_value=
ac_cv_env_CFLAGS_set=
ac_cv_env_CFLAGS_value=
ac_cv_env_CPPFLAGS_set=
ac_cv_env_CPPFLAGS_value=
ac_cv_env_CPP_set=
ac_cv_env_CPP_value=
ac_cv_env_LDFLAGS_set=
ac_cv_env_LDFLAGS_value=
ac_cv_env_LIBS_set=
ac_cv_env_LIBS_value=
ac_cv_env_XMKMF_set=
ac_cv_env_XMKMF_value=
ac_cv_env_build_alias_set=
ac_cv_env_build_alias_value=
ac_cv_env_host_alias_set=
ac_cv_env_host_alias_value=
ac_cv_env_target_alias_set=
ac_cv_env_target_alias_value=
ac_cv_prog_AWK=gawk
ac_cv_prog_make_make_set=no

## ----------------- ##
## Output variables. ##
## ----------------- ##

ACLOCAL='${SHELL} /root/xbindkeys-1.8.2/missing --run aclocal-1.9'
AMDEPBACKSLASH=''
AMDEP_FALSE=''
AMDEP_TRUE=''
AMTAR='${SHELL} /root/xbindkeys-1.8.2/missing --run tar'
AUTOCONF='${SHELL} /root/xbindkeys-1.8.2/missing --run autoconf'
AUTOHEADER='${SHELL} /root/xbindkeys-1.8.2/missing --run autoheader'
AUTOMAKE='${SHELL} /root/xbindkeys-1.8.2/missing --run automake-1.9'
AWK='gawk'
CC=''
CCDEPMODE=''
CFLAGS=''
CPP=''
CPPFLAGS=''
CYGPATH_W='echo'
DEFS=''
DEPDIR=''
ECHO_C=''
ECHO_N='-n'
ECHO_T=''
EGREP=''
EXEEXT=''
FORK_FLAG=''
GREP=''
GUILE=''
GUILE_CFLAGS=''
GUILE_CONFIG=''
GUILE_FALSE=''
GUILE_FLAG=''
GUILE_LDFLAGS=''
GUILE_TOOLS=''
GUILE_TRUE=''
INSTALL_DATA='${INSTALL} -m 644'
INSTALL_PROGRAM='${INSTALL}'
INSTALL_SCRIPT='${INSTALL}'
INSTALL_STRIP_PROGRAM='${SHELL} $(install_sh) -c -s'
LDFLAGS=''
LIBOBJS=''
LIBS=''
LTLIBOBJS=''
MAINT='#'
MAINTAINER_MODE_FALSE=''
MAINTAINER_MODE_TRUE='#'
MAKEINFO='${SHELL} /root/xbindkeys-1.8.2/missing --run makeinfo'
OBJEXT=''
PACKAGE='xbindkeys'
PACKAGE_BUGREPORT='hocwp@free.fr'
PACKAGE_NAME='xbindkeys'
PACKAGE_STRING='xbindkeys 1.8.2'
PACKAGE_TARNAME='xbindkeys'
PACKAGE_VERSION='1.8.2'
PATH_SEPARATOR=':'
SET_MAKE='MAKE=make'
SHELL='/bin/sh'
STRIP=''
TK_FALSE=''
TK_TRUE=''
VERSION='1.8.2'
XMKMF=''
X_CFLAGS=''
X_EXTRA_LIBS=''
X_LIBS=''
X_PRE_LIBS=''
ac_ct_CC=''
am__fastdepCC_FALSE=''
am__fastdepCC_TRUE=''
am__include=''
am__leading_dot='.'
am__quote=''
am__tar='${AMTAR} chof - "$$tardir"'
am__untar='${AMTAR} xf -'
bindir='${exec_prefix}/bin'
build_alias=''
datadir='${datarootdir}'
datarootdir='${prefix}/share'
docdir='${datarootdir}/doc/${PACKAGE_TARNAME}'
dvidir='${docdir}'
exec_prefix='NONE'
host_alias=''
htmldir='${docdir}'
includedir='${prefix}/include'
infodir='${datarootdir}/info'
install_sh='/root/xbindkeys-1.8.2/install-sh'
libdir='${exec_prefix}/lib'
libexecdir='${exec_prefix}/libexec'
localedir='${datarootdir}/locale'
localstatedir='${prefix}/var'
mandir='${datarootdir}/man'
mkdir_p='mkdir -p --'
oldincludedir='/usr/include'
pdfdir='${docdir}'
prefix='NONE'
program_transform_name='s,x,x,'
psdir='${docdir}'
sbindir='${exec_prefix}/sbin'
sharedstatedir='${prefix}/com'
sysconfdir='${prefix}/etc'
target_alias=''

## ----------- ##
## confdefs.h. ##
## ----------- ##

#define PACKAGE_NAME "xbindkeys"
#define PACKAGE_TARNAME "xbindkeys"
#define PACKAGE_VERSION "1.8.2"
#define PACKAGE_STRING "xbindkeys 1.8.2"
#define PACKAGE_BUGREPORT "hocwp@free.fr"

configure: exit 1

 

#10 2009-08-13 21:29:00

miye
Guest

Re: xvkbd - virtual keyboard and xbindkeys

Thought I post it all for fun and anybody else just starting out, As you can see you have to Gunzip the downloaded tar.gz then -x, --extract, --get

    Extract other-files from an archive (if other-files are not specified, extract all files).
   
v, --verbose

    Verbose. Print filenames as they are added or extracted.
   
F script, --info-script=script, --new-volume-script=script

  tar -xvf xbindkeys-1.8.2.tar





Desktop        new directory 1      xbindkeys-1.8.2.tar.gz
new directory  xbindkeys-1.8.2.tar
root@localhost:~# gunzip xbindkeys-1.8.2.tar.gz
gunzip: xbindkeys-1.8.2.tar already exists; do you wish to overwrite (y or n)? y
root@localhost:~# ls
Desktop  new directory  new directory 1  xbindkeys-1.8.2.tar
root@localhost:~# tar -xvf xbindkeys-1.8.2.tar
xbindkeys-1.8.2/
xbindkeys-1.8.2/config.h.in
xbindkeys-1.8.2/ChangeLog
xbindkeys-1.8.2/TODO
xbindkeys-1.8.2/AUTHORS
xbindkeys-1.8.2/missing
xbindkeys-1.8.2/INSTALL
xbindkeys-1.8.2/xbindkeys.h
xbindkeys-1.8.2/config.sub
xbindkeys-1.8.2/Makefile.am
xbindkeys-1.8.2/configure
xbindkeys-1.8.2/NEWS
xbindkeys-1.8.2/xbindkeysrc-combo.scm
xbindkeys-1.8.2/Makefile.in
xbindkeys-1.8.2/xbindkeys.spec
xbindkeys-1.8.2/options.h
xbindkeys-1.8.2/config.guess
xbindkeys-1.8.2/xbindkeysrc
xbindkeys-1.8.2/grab_key.h
xbindkeys-1.8.2/keys.h
xbindkeys-1.8.2/COPYING
xbindkeys-1.8.2/xbindkeys_show
xbindkeys-1.8.2/xbindkeysrc.scm
xbindkeys-1.8.2/README
xbindkeys-1.8.2/get_key.c
xbindkeys-1.8.2/install-sh
xbindkeys-1.8.2/xbindkeys_show.1
xbindkeys-1.8.2/options.c
xbindkeys-1.8.2/xbindkeys.1
xbindkeys-1.8.2/aclocal.m4
xbindkeys-1.8.2/depcomp
xbindkeys-1.8.2/get_key.h
xbindkeys-1.8.2/configure.ac
xbindkeys-1.8.2/grab_key.c
xbindkeys-1.8.2/mkinstalldirs
xbindkeys-1.8.2/keys.c
xbindkeys-1.8.2/BUGS
xbindkeys-1.8.2/xbindkeys.c
root@localhost:~# ls
Desktop  new directory  new directory 1  xbindkeys-1.8.2  xbindkeys-1.8.2.tar
root@localhost:~# cd package
-sh: cd: package: No such file or directory
root@localhost:~# cd xbindkeys-1.8.2
root@localhost:~/xbindkeys-1.8.2# ls
AUTHORS      README        depcomp     missing         xbindkeys_show
BUGS         TODO          get_key.c   mkinstalldirs   xbindkeys_show.1
COPYING      aclocal.m4    get_key.h   options.c       xbindkeysrc
ChangeLog    config.guess  grab_key.c  options.h       xbindkeysrc-combo.scm
INSTALL      config.h.in   grab_key.h  xbindkeys.1     xbindkeysrc.scm
Makefile.am  config.sub    install-sh  xbindkeys.c
Makefile.in  configure     keys.c      xbindkeys.h
NEWS         configure.ac  keys.h      xbindkeys.spec
root@localhost:~/xbindkeys-1.8.2# ./configure
checking for a BSD-compatible install... ./install-sh -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for gawk... gawk
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... no
checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no
checking for gcc... no
checking for cc... no
checking for cl.exe... no
configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
See `config.log' for more details.
root@localhost:~/xbindkeys-1.8.2#
root@localhost:~/xbindkeys-1.8.2#
root@localhost:~/xbindkeys-1.8.2#
root@localhost:~/xbindkeys-1.8.2#

 

#11 2009-08-13 21:36:01

miye
Guest

Re: xvkbd - virtual keyboard and xbindkeys

Then ./configure and I got stuck:( I can do this all in emelFM2 file manager I think makes it easier but probably better to mess with the old fashion way as well.

 

#12 2009-08-14 09:29:41

atang1
Administrator
Registered: 2006-03-30
Posts: 2705

Re: xvkbd - virtual keyboard and xbindkeys

After you boot from Austrumi, you can use firefox to view what software is included on the version of austrumi you have in your possession?

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#13 2009-08-14 12:53:26

miye
Guest

Re: xvkbd - virtual keyboard and xbindkeys

atang1 wrote:

After you boot from Austrumi, you can use firefox to view what software is included on the version of austrumi you have in your possession?

That does not help me figure out why Gcc or whatever compiler it is in austrumi won't work. is their or is their not one with Austrumi and I can use it or not. I have 1.8.5 and the latest release, still not luck.

 

#14 2009-08-14 13:12:02

atang1
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Registered: 2006-03-30
Posts: 2705

Re: xvkbd - virtual keyboard and xbindkeys

From version to version, Austrumi changes software packages included. kernel versions included. In your verbose it shows 2.6.28?

When you work with tiny Linux, not all kernel library is included. So, you have to boot the version you have and look at firefox to see if gcc4.3 is included with kernel 2.6.28?

Once you discovered the missing GCC version you needed, then you can download it into your computer with Austrumi livecd booted and firefox used to download gcc? Then remaster to install in the next livecd.

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#15 2009-08-14 15:12:11

miye
Guest

Re: xvkbd - virtual keyboard and xbindkeys

atang1 wrote:

From version to version, Austrumi changes software packages included. kernel versions included. In your verbose it shows 2.6.28?

When you work with tiny Linux, not all kernel library is included. So, you have to boot the version you have and look at firefox to see if gcc4.3 is included with kernel 2.6.28?

Once you discovered the missing GCC version you needed, then you can download it into your computer with Austrumi livecd booted and firefox used to download gcc? Then remaster to install in the next livecd.

Can you make available a version of Austrumi with the require tools for compiling I have gotten some files for puppy for compiling from http://distro.ibiblio.org Do Austrumi have any plans of making something like this for it's user I think it would be a good idea.
:
I'm gonna compile pet files then install them in Austrumi and see if that works for now. Because installing GCC seems way too much of a hassel. because it does not let you installed in the same source directory and been newbie It's hard to understand how to install into a separator directory and the instructions are not very helpful.

Last edited by miye (2009-08-14 15:14:34)

 

#16 2009-08-14 20:10:53

atang1
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Registered: 2006-03-30
Posts: 2705

Re: xvkbd - virtual keyboard and xbindkeys

Puppy also has slackware versions.

Austrumi(1.7.2) uses kernel 2.6.26.3, which is not a kernel Puppy uses. So, there maybe some fixing to do.

The latest Austrumi version is 1.9.4(109 mB) according to DistroWatch.

Included:
kernel 2.6.30
GCC 4.3.3

Download from Sourceforge?

It received the softpedia pick award and can be downloaded there. Old description of 50 mB is not correct; screen shot is in Latvian instead of being selective in five languages.

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#17 2009-08-14 22:54:52

miye
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Re: xvkbd - virtual keyboard and xbindkeys

atang1 wrote:

Puppy also has slackware versions.

Austrumi(1.7.2) uses kernel 2.6.26.3, which is not a kernel Puppy uses. So, there maybe some fixing to do.

The latest Austrumi version is 1.9.4(109 mB) according to DistroWatch.

Included:
kernel 2.6.30
GCC 4.3.3

Download from Sourceforge?

It received the softpedia pick award and can be downloaded there. Old description of 50 mB is not correct; screen shot is in Latvian instead of being selective in five languages.

Well I like 1.8.5 better how do I get Gcc and CC working on 1.8.5 I cant  configure Gcc after download.

 

#18 2009-08-15 19:35:43

miye
Guest

Re: xvkbd - virtual keyboard and xbindkeys

miye wrote:

atang1 wrote:

Puppy also has slackware versions.

Austrumi(1.7.2) uses kernel 2.6.26.3, which is not a kernel Puppy uses. So, there maybe some fixing to do.

The latest Austrumi version is 1.9.4(109 mB) according to DistroWatch.

Included:
kernel 2.6.30
GCC 4.3.3

Download from Sourceforge?

It received the softpedia pick award and can be downloaded there. Old description of 50 mB is not correct; screen shot is in Latvian instead of being selective in five languages.

Well I like 1.8.5 better how do I get Gcc and CC working on 1.8.5 I cant  configure Gcc after download.

Well I downloaded 1.9.4  Gslapt says gcc-4.3.3-i686-3al.tg is installed but I still cant complie anything gcc or cc commands dont work in terminal

 

#19 2009-08-15 19:42:57

atang1
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Registered: 2006-03-30
Posts: 2705

Re: xvkbd - virtual keyboard and xbindkeys

Well both 1.8.5 and 1.9.4 had xorg problems, only a few video cards and monitors work. My IBM 8514 mionitor does not work(horizontal frequency of 35 hz). On older versions, Austrumi will run 35-60 hz horizontal frequencies. Now looks like only 60 hz.

Since Austrumi is slackware, tar.gz packages should work with included gcc 4.3.3.

From the vga display loading Austrumi 1.9.4; it looks much sophiscated than the older versions. I have to try several different desktops to see if Austrumi 1.9.4 will display correctly on any one of them?

Wish Austrumi still can do vga 791/792; but it now does compiz.

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#20 2009-08-15 19:59:44

atang1
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Re: xvkbd - virtual keyboard and xbindkeys

Looking at the verbose you have, it seem to me that you did not complete the make install process.

You download the tar.gz file. Into booted Austrumi?
You tar the package name correctely.
You cd package name
You ./configure to show package(list) does not have gcc. But Austrumi has GCC.
you did not make? Compile with gcc in austrumi into a binary file name?
You did not make install.  To install the binary file in an Austrumi directory.

If it tested good, no bugs. Then you have to remaster(burn a cdr/cdrw) before you shut down, with the new package in Austrumi operating system to use it with the new package on the new livecd?

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#21 2009-08-15 20:51:13

atang1
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Re: xvkbd - virtual keyboard and xbindkeys

You should not use install script, because it may be kernel version dependent. You use linix commands to work with file names such as gcc. Make is a linux command to use gcc somewhere in Austrumi directories to compile open source codes into binary codes?

Slackware now has new package installers. But we are not sure if Austrumi has them available. So, to be safe use the linux commands for tarball installation. Unless you check firefox for all the files listed in Austrumi.

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#22 2009-08-16 09:49:03

atang1
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Posts: 2705

Re: xvkbd - virtual keyboard and xbindkeys

Is the joystick on serial port? Some stick or pads are in Ubuntu, Debian and Suse. Others in Vista and XP can also be used in Linux(wine?).

It may work without drivers like a mouse(without firing buttons). But in game apps, it will be picked up as joypad or joysticks in the game(download linux games or dosgames will get pc joystick drivers). Many people are also interested to remap the varies buttons on joypads? Google specific joysticks or joypads may yeild better info? Some Sony(Mips platform playstation2) games are written in Linux.

Footnote:
GCC file name is more than just gcc, so it is not a linux command. 'Make' is the command to use GCC file names, what ever they are.

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#23 2009-08-17 18:46:14

atang1
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Posts: 2705

Re: xvkbd - virtual keyboard and xbindkeys

I have installed Austrumi 1.9.4 on Intel 845 chipset and works fine with LCD monitor. Previously used older nvidia with IBM 8514 monitor got blank screen.

Mouse left click gets all the files on the menu.

Over the years, Austrumi had made many changes. Now package manager is done by gslapt script.

Internet is now done by wireless 802.11; intranet is done by IP address(wired cable modem). No more dialup external modem done years ago by my request.  Many dialup modem users still could use the fastest Linux operating system, that Andrejs claimed to have in austrumi 1.9.4.

Appearance is now more slick. Desktop is in a sidebar. I like it, but still have to use menu by mouse, left and right clicks.

Conky is nice but not a dashboard for constant monitoring.

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#24 2009-08-17 20:31:19

miye
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Re: xvkbd - virtual keyboard and xbindkeys

You should try running  live austrumi on a formatted hard drive, cause at the moment for me gcc does not work Live.

 

#25 2009-08-18 08:16:24

atang1
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Registered: 2006-03-30
Posts: 2705

Re: xvkbd - virtual keyboard and xbindkeys

Livecd uses gslapt and GCC is in different directory called by gslapt script? Look there?

You can install playstation2 drivers by gslapt maybe, in addition to Microsoft game paddles?

I am familiar with most of the programs in the menu, and will be getting more familiar with version 1.9.4.

I try not to add any codes or fix any codes except notifying Andrejs thru this website(corrupted at this time by punbb hosting). Andrejs can put the official version out so many can enjoy, not just on my computers.

If you have wonderful changes, you could sell the livecd fork for a few bucks, so others can enjoy? Offer it at the Austrumi online store, it will be picked up by search engines?

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